tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1963277636652034473.post1010821570504325963..comments2023-09-09T05:35:11.672-07:00Comments on Boots and Saddles: Ground work - be inspired!Melhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16627065628317652042noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1963277636652034473.post-72640171655553600232013-12-09T19:40:39.434-08:002013-12-09T19:40:39.434-08:00I never had a lunging surcingle so I always put an...I never had a lunging surcingle so I always put an English saddle on, tied the stirrups to the girth, and then laced my lines through the stirrups. Mimicked driving gear pretty well. But yes, the lines do dangle at the hocks, I actually use the point of the hock as a reference point to make sure my lines don't drag when I don't have tension. When I ground drive in real harness, the lines are at the level if the hocks, although the lines are better supported, because that's the. Level that my hands and elbows are at. So I don't think you are necessarily doing anything wrong. One precaution I do because I am using sort of a hobbled together set is I hook my lines on a halter and not a bit, unless I'm in actual drive harness. Just isn't work the risk if a torn up mouth if it goes south. And having the stirrups riged instead if the "correct" set up has more drag and a different angle than my drive gear in the lines, so since I'm not actually teaching Farley to drive (although she would make an awesome cart horse!) I'm using the halter instead if a bit to minimize any impacts if I do end out trying it in the future. Melhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16627065628317652042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1963277636652034473.post-72575958632863964722013-12-09T13:51:06.802-08:002013-12-09T13:51:06.802-08:00Got it:) I used to use the lunging cavesson, but ...Got it:) I used to use the lunging cavesson, but I found it to be bulky, like you described, but when I use a bit, I find that I constantly have to switch the line to the other side when I change direction, which I am seriously irritated about. Now, I'm using 2 long lines and doing a hybrid long-lining/lunging thing, but I don't like the way the outside line tends to wander around my horse's hocks. It could just be bad form on my part, but if you've got any tips, let me know:)Gailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17080104319886657109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1963277636652034473.post-19768591108307473332013-12-09T08:34:50.723-08:002013-12-09T08:34:50.723-08:00Cavasson auto corrected to Davidson above. Sorry. ...Cavasson auto corrected to Davidson above. Sorry. On phone as usual....Melhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16627065628317652042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1963277636652034473.post-84211368208240584232013-12-09T08:29:18.343-08:002013-12-09T08:29:18.343-08:00Comment was getting long so had to split. Anyways....Comment was getting long so had to split. Anyways. If I had a young strong horse I might use a lubge halter if they constantly blew through my turn requests. But, the goal is improved communication with the goal being able to do these exercises on a free lunge, so IMO less is more. Perfectly ok to use a tool as long as its needed....but my eventually goal is effective two way communication and I found that the lunge halter was both a crutch for me and let me get away with less than perfect technique, and was a barrier to getting good feedback from my horse on whether I was doing it right. But like I mentioned earlier, disresectable horse that blatantly ignores be I would use that tool as long as I needed. Sorta like the crib but on Farley at rides. I prefer a Snaffle because I can feel and support and do subtle stuff. But if she's going to pull and.ignire me I'll absolutely slap a curb on her. Melhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16627065628317652042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1963277636652034473.post-10543902413527562662013-12-09T08:17:32.506-08:002013-12-09T08:17:32.506-08:00Nope. If I'm thinking about it I grab my flat ...Nope. If I'm thinking about it I grab my flat nylon halter or biothane halter instead if my rope halter because I feel like it doesn't torque and put weird pressure in her face when the line flaps or pulls. I used to have a lunging halter like you described but didn't lime it for a couple of reasons. The nose had to be right, like a Davidson, or the weight kg the line or any pressure causes it to twist. Also, it provided almost too much control, any pressure causes the horses nose to come inward, and sometimes that's not what I'm trying to do. Melhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16627065628317652042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1963277636652034473.post-5259327034797137542013-12-09T08:00:08.458-08:002013-12-09T08:00:08.458-08:00Thanks for the inspiration! When you do this type...Thanks for the inspiration! When you do this type of work, do you use a lunging cavesson with a center ring on the nose?Gailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17080104319886657109noreply@blogger.com