tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1963277636652034473.post8365274054897385604..comments2023-09-09T05:35:11.672-07:00Comments on Boots and Saddles: In which Farley....is not doing so good.....Melhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16627065628317652042noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1963277636652034473.post-79495503829313480882010-08-19T11:14:28.525-07:002010-08-19T11:14:28.525-07:00You have to remember that she is fitter now than s...You have to remember that she is fitter now than she was prior to or after the previous rides. <br /><br />It is also a different time of year, so hormones may play a larger part now than say in February or March. <br /><br />This combination along with the feed and other supplements she gets could be the cause, as well as periods of activity or inactivity. <br /><br />Just don't be led into thinking "it's the alfalfa" and taking her off of that and then assuming that is all that was needed to prevent a tie-up in the future.<br /><br />Keep an eye on her feet, especially for signs of heat or sensitivity. This kind of stress can lead to inflammation and a low grade laminitis.enduranceridestuff.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04675520499223277797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1963277636652034473.post-44856610899764062832010-08-19T09:30:04.167-07:002010-08-19T09:30:04.167-07:00freakin' scary, all right. You and Farley are...freakin' scary, all right. You and Farley are in our thoughts--keep us posted!!!AareneXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17569818745110332355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1963277636652034473.post-25236205133422788142010-08-19T09:01:41.732-07:002010-08-19T09:01:41.732-07:00Karen - I'm going to post her schedule and fee...Karen - I'm going to post her schedule and feeding today sometime and would love if you could give me some feedback. The post Tevis work and diet was very similar to 20 MT and WW. She didn't get anything but hay on the days she didn't get out (which, I think makes a good case for the hay).<br /><br />E.G. - Relunctance to move forward and then when I got off to lead her, a relunctance to lead with very short hind strides. The muscle swelling and hardness didn't show up for another 6-8 hours, and she didn't pee until about 4 hours later (at which time I saw it was dark). The attack was very sudden and fairly severe. Her feed has remained consistent over the season, so I'm a little confused....The only "new" feed this year (started using it about 6 months ago) is the stable mix, so I have a message out to EGM, asking about a detailed anaylsis for that feed. And then of course the (unknown) changes in the hay.<br /><br />for those of you that have asked - muscle enzymes were too high to count on Tuesday night, and remained high on Wednesday at noon.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03706790384521584232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1963277636652034473.post-64801863391827082822010-08-19T03:02:55.811-07:002010-08-19T03:02:55.811-07:00Oh...I'm sorry Mel :(
For the record, our...Oh...I'm sorry Mel :( <br /><br />For the record, our episode come on in a period that I had increased the alfalfa proportion of her diet.<br /><br />When you get the time and inclination, please post up all the symptoms, because Phebe's episode was so insidious that it got by me & the vets until the urine color gave me a heart attack.<br /><br />Hope she is better soon. Hugs.<br /><br />~E.G.All Who Wanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15811193190492037859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1963277636652034473.post-55585613770608864872010-08-18T23:51:57.522-07:002010-08-18T23:51:57.522-07:00P.S. "I started telling people that this was...P.S. "I started telling people that this was the year of the "Broke Melinda"<br /><br />You got that right! Literally!!<br /><br />(same here, only my vet bills are currently for the small animal vet for my dog)enduranceridestuff.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04675520499223277797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1963277636652034473.post-74538477551218702632010-08-18T23:48:59.629-07:002010-08-18T23:48:59.629-07:00Sorry this happened to Farley. It was lucky that ...Sorry this happened to Farley. It was lucky that you were able to get a vet right away and that it wasn't more serious. <br /><br />Watch the hay tho - my alfalfa/grass mix is lower on the NSC/WSC content than the straight grass is. <br /><br />Sounds to me more like it was a typical "horse is really fit, got a break, put back to work" tie-up, while also still being "fed well". <br /><br />This happened to Tigger a couple of years ago too, after doing the Swanton 100. He then had a mild issue with it after that, since he got a "break" with little work. Mares can be even more sensitive to these kinds of things. Now you will need to be even more careful in the future. <br /><br />While I do think that food can play a role in these things, I also think that it is more complicated than that. I'm sure you will figure it out. If you do keep having occurrences I can send you more resources to help.enduranceridestuff.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04675520499223277797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1963277636652034473.post-65646639032894311052010-08-18T14:10:31.784-07:002010-08-18T14:10:31.784-07:00I've only had one horse (a TB) tie up and it w...I've only had one horse (a TB) tie up and it was a very scary experience. It sounds like she's being well taken care of, and she should recover without adverse effects based on what you said. Hope you can figure out the cause and remove it.<br /><br />(I know absolutely nothing about endurance, but have been enjoying your write-ups and analyses.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1963277636652034473.post-2029820044542950452010-08-18T13:59:10.673-07:002010-08-18T13:59:10.673-07:00I may have just gotten really unlucky with her com...I may have just gotten really unlucky with her coming into season, on the heels of some time off, combined with a high sugar load of hay (either one). Still, trying not to discount anything that may have contributed.<br /><br />If the issue is alfalfa, it would be pretty easy to pull her off of that and feed her 100% grass with a flake of alfalfa only during hard work (none of off days) if weight and protein end up being an issue. It's going to be tougher if it ends up being the grass hay that's not great because of the Ca:Ph ratios........<br /><br />wait and see wait and see.<br /><br />Haven't gotten a call from my vet yet and I should have 1 1/2 ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *sigh* Patience is a virtue right. As in a high Credit Card limit.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03706790384521584232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1963277636652034473.post-55232884267670867472010-08-18T13:31:29.090-07:002010-08-18T13:31:29.090-07:00God luck with your investigation. Testing your hay...God luck with your investigation. Testing your hay is NEVER a bad idea. Not only will it give you a better idea concerning her tie-up, it will also give you information on anything that her hay, or diet in general, may be lacking. Grass hays can be high in sugar, so don't automatically think it's the alfalfa. Don't assume that it's any one thing that caused her to tie-up. Sometimes it can be a combination of environment, hormonal balance/imbalance, exercise, diet, or a change in any of those things. <br />Keep an open mind, and good luck. I'm sure you'll figure it out.<br />JVAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1963277636652034473.post-86717681751059478572010-08-18T13:14:36.577-07:002010-08-18T13:14:36.577-07:00It's got to be the alfalfa hay. I have owned h...It's got to be the alfalfa hay. I have owned horses for almost 30 years and have never had my own horse tie-up. And I've never fed any of my horses' alfalfa. ((I am knocking on wood because I know it still could happen and I have to be careful always))<br /><br />I used to take care of some QH's in IL that were fed straight alfalfa. One gelding had three episodes in the year and a half I stayed there. The vet always said, pull this horse off alfalfa or one of these days he's not going to make it. But the owners (who were formerly dairy cow owners) just would not accept it. They had their own alfalfa field and there was no way they were going to not use their own hay. <br /><br />I could be wrong but that is my hunch. And my observations in my years of horse ownership.<br /><br />Hope she makes a full recovery, which I can only imagine from the good care you give her!<br /><br />MichelleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1963277636652034473.post-64602254573120802992010-08-18T12:59:58.496-07:002010-08-18T12:59:58.496-07:00Fingers crossed that this clears up, and your inve...Fingers crossed that this clears up, and your investigation proves fruitful. <br /><br />And you can't leave us! ;)<br /><br />Rubs to Farley, and thinking of you both!Mrs. Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15269132012512166439noreply@blogger.com